1964 Kennedy Half with doubled counter-mark/ privy mark

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1964 Kennedy Half with doubled counter-mark/ privy mark

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Seemingly produced on the occasion of 200 years diplomatic relations between the Netherlands and the U.S.A

that's what I found:

counter-mark/ privy mark E 61

Date: 1982.

Description: The uncrowned kingdom coat of arms between the years 1782 (top) and 1982 (bottom), incuse.

Intended for: USA, Kennedy half dollar 1964.

Reason: 200 years of diplomatic relations between the Netherlands and the United States (1782-1982). "

Does anybody know which institution struck those and in what numbers?

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Welcome

I like it......
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No idea. First time I've ever seen something like this. I like it also!

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good lookin' !
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It is coool, but this didn't happen at the US Mint.

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I very much like this as an avid Kennedy specialist! I have only seen three other designs of counter stamped Kennedy halves. One of them I wish was mine,but never found one. It was posted on a forum years ago. The counter stamp was a very bold "IMPEACH oBAMA!"

One II have has 1960 on the left of Kennedy and 1980 on the right (presumably 20 year anniversary of his inauguration).
Counterstamp_JF_Half_20yr_Commem_Inaug.jpg
And then one of my favorites:
1980_50¢_JFK_Abe_Counterstamp_Obv-ccfopt.jpg
back in the 70s is was popular to find counter stamped pennies for sale glued to a card listing many of the unusual parallels between President Kennedy and President Lincoln's assassinations. This half was the counterpart to the penny.
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Earle42 wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:01 am I very much like this as an avid Kennedy specialist! I have only seen three other designs of counter stamped Kennedy halves. One of them I wish was mine,but never found one. It was posted on a forum years ago. The counter stamp was a very bold "IMPEACH oBAMA! "
Now we all are on the look out waiting for the " Let's go Brandon! " variant ...

There is another known counter mark design regarding the same 200. anniversary purposed for the 1964 Kennedy half
https://wiki.muntenenpapiergeld.nl/inde ... =Klop_E_50

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Daniel wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:11 pm It is coool, but this didn't happen at the US Mint.
Cool. I like that You don''t see a merely damaged coin.
How would You price such an example in Your shop?

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At first, and because of the natural association to the more non-family friendly saying that Let's Go Brandon came from, I was reluctant to associate much with the saying though I understood the sentiment.

Now the Brandon reference has been around awhile, even seeing the term "Brandon administration" being used frequently, the motto has become, at least to me, more associated with mocking the media for trying to cover up actual US sentiment during the event that spawned this motto. So I actually did look into a counterstamp!

From research online It would likely cost 75-100.00 for the punch. And I would need finance it with product being sold. But I hate the thought of selling a half dollar for 5.00 and shipping to cover the cost (eBay fees etc.!). Then there is the time to sell on eBay, etc.

Here is the actual design I came up with but have not acted upon...
I know JFK would approve!
I know JFK would approve!
It took awhile to try to get lettering the right size and conform it to the field - I wanted as little damage to the initial design as possible.

I don't know...I am not quite serious about this b/c I am terrible at figuring out what a legit cost would be (I would want it to be cheap and affordable) and just want to break even. Any ideas?
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Maybe only the first letters in capital letters, or really just "L G B ! " in a nice font.

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I would be afraid that if just the initials were shown that an existing marxist-puppet group would want to see it as a nod in favor of what they are doing to further the decline of the American family.
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You decide.

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#13 Unread post by DSCoins »

This might help to save a little space. You do not need the ' in let's. It should be just lets. Next the only two words that need to be capitalized are the L in Lets and B in Brandon.
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Very true about the apostophe👍 Being a writer and former grammar teacher (you would never know it by my typing on the forum!!!!!) I automatically think too technically.

As to using a lower case G, thanks for the suggestion. I had thought of using lower case, but am guessing the metal flow into lower case letters (more complex curves and smaller loops) would be more difficult. So I used all upper case.

So what would someone pay for one of these? Like I said, I have no desire to make anything. But eBay fees already put it up to likely over $3.00 minimum when I add shipping and paypal fees as well!
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I really can't think of an asking price. I have a few friends who would more than likely love to have something like this. I will be seeing one of them on Thursday (my caregiver). I will find out what she would be willing to pay. I will also ask her to check with her other friends about what they would pay. Even though you do not actually say it, they feel just as strong about it as you are.
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Earle42 wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:45 pm I would be afraid that if just the initials were shown that an existing marxist-puppet group would want to see it as a nod in favor of what they are doing to further the decline of the American family.
maybe F J B would be a better option? Just a question earl, is that marxist-puppet group you're talking about the LGBTQ group? if it was, I totally agree with you. Let's go brandon!
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I personally could not use that version. In fact I was a bit hesitant to use the clean version for awhile b/c of association with the original choice of (quoting Mr. Spock) "colorful metaphors." But I have seen (or at least interpreted it this way), that a lot of people are now seeing the clean version as a huge mockery of the media's lying. So that's why I thought of this.

As to your second question. Yes. Homework into the actual events (including dirty politics and non-science!) leading to these people not being helped and treated anymore shows will make it evident they are being used as puppets while being told they they are championing a good cause.
Destroy the traditional family unit - the strength of a nation as proven in history - and you rot the nation from the inside out as "anything goes" becomes the norm and you end up with no moral standards/laws and anarchy. History has proven over and over that "normalization" of such things has always helped the downfall of the nations falling into this trap.
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#18 Unread post by DSCoins »

@Earle42
Spoke to a few (20) people I know, the average price was around 10-20 dollars per coin. Heck, tell me where to get the counter punch and I'd do it here. I have a Mint bag of 2021 Kennidy half's I can use.
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