Oddity on planchet?
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Oddity on planchet?
Going through a bunch of dimes with my son and came across a really beautiful 1949 dime that I would ordinarily consider sending to PCGS, but it has an oddity on it. Looks like there was a big rub on the coin before it was minted, or grease smear or something...
At 90 degrees, it isn't visible, but at an angle (I had to tilt it about 45 degrees) I see what looks like a comet running behind the torch flame. Extra shiny, and smooth. What the heck is this? I'll try to get a better photo in the morning. This doesn't really catch the light on the anomaly as well as reality..
And here is the front just because.. I couldn't capture the color as well as I'd like.. but that gives me something to work on.
Thanks,
Scott
At 90 degrees, it isn't visible, but at an angle (I had to tilt it about 45 degrees) I see what looks like a comet running behind the torch flame. Extra shiny, and smooth. What the heck is this? I'll try to get a better photo in the morning. This doesn't really catch the light on the anomaly as well as reality..
And here is the front just because.. I couldn't capture the color as well as I'd like.. but that gives me something to work on.
Thanks,
Scott
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
Hello Scott ! Awaiting more Photo's .Thanks for sharing .
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
Looks like Linear striation lines or polish lines.
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
Seems like a polish blob instead of lines. :) That's what I'll go with then. I read elsewhere that the stronger the strike, and the newer the die, the more likely you'll see this. No impact to grading is also what I read.
This will be in my next gripe to PCGS - will let you know if they mark it down or define it as something else.
Thanks,
Scott
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
I would like to see some better images, could be polish lines or feeder finger scrapes but I can't tell.
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
Scott, are you expecting them to look at this and ID the error for you? That is not how they work. They will not do it. You will be charged the fee for grading and no mention will be made to you about an error.
Here is more info concerning the actual nature of the grading companies to help people make better educated decisions.
Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.
1. The grading companies are not a way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.
2. Watch some of Daniel's videos where he gets pieces back form the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living (like Daniel) can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays.
Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where (allegedly, but in reality its normally two) three graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.
If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. Personally having talked with former graders (granted - its been awhile), the process is very rushed since they told me graders are paid by how many coins they can get through in a day.
But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
Grading the Coin Graders
Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies
3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they only ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find ID an error for you. You must first ID the error yourself, check to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for!. The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors correctly.
Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example.
The verifiable data presented shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.
You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.
And…if you just like to collect slabbed coins for what they are, which makes losing/making money from slabs irrelevant, then of course enjoy them!"
Here is more info concerning the actual nature of the grading companies to help people make better educated decisions.
Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.
1. The grading companies are not a way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.
2. Watch some of Daniel's videos where he gets pieces back form the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living (like Daniel) can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays.
Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where (allegedly, but in reality its normally two) three graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.
If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. Personally having talked with former graders (granted - its been awhile), the process is very rushed since they told me graders are paid by how many coins they can get through in a day.
But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
Grading the Coin Graders
Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies
3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they only ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find ID an error for you. You must first ID the error yourself, check to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for!. The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors correctly.
Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example.
The verifiable data presented shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.
You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.
And…if you just like to collect slabbed coins for what they are, which makes losing/making money from slabs irrelevant, then of course enjoy them!"
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
I was leaning towards feeder finger damage(?) also, but need to see better images
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Re: Oddity on planchet?
I agree. My initial thoughts. Pics make it resemble that.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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