Recently this 1864L Indian Head from a dealer that I have done business with before - always good advice from him in the past. While I know I cannot see the "L" in this coin grade, I took the dealer's word that this is a pointed bust coin (meaning that the coin would be considered an "L"). The more I look at it, the more I question whether this is a fat bust or a pointed - I took it back to the dealer and he looked at it for a while and still insisted it was a pointed bust coin. I am still not convinced - thoughts?
1864 L Indian Head Cent? Fat or pointed bust?
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Re: 1864 L Indian Head Cent? Fat or pointed bust?
MMMMMMMMMMM.....?
Your image is kind of dark, ..... I question if this is a "Pointed Bust" or not.....
Your image is kind of dark, ..... I question if this is a "Pointed Bust" or not.....
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Re: 1864 L Indian Head Cent? Fat or pointed bust?
Looks pretty pointy from where I'm sitting . See the center line in the area of question .
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Re: 1864 L Indian Head Cent? Fat or pointed bust?
Disclaimer: I have no experience with this type.
I did a photoshop overlay of Paul's post and your coin. The pointed bust looks much more likely to be accurate.
I did a photoshop overlay of Paul's post and your coin. The pointed bust looks much more likely to be accurate.
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Re: 1864 L Indian Head Cent? Fat or pointed bust?
No L on ribbon. Blunt.
Brightened the OP's coin pic and placed it next to an 1864 PCGS L on ribbon and a cropped pic of an 1864 normal strike PCGS. NUmbers included in the pics to verify them online at PCGS.
Paul, the pic you posted is for 1860 IHCs.
Brightened the OP's coin pic and placed it next to an 1864 PCGS L on ribbon and a cropped pic of an 1864 normal strike PCGS. NUmbers included in the pics to verify them online at PCGS.
Paul, the pic you posted is for 1860 IHCs.
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Re: 1864 L Indian Head Cent? Fat or pointed bust?
"Paul, the pic you posted is for 1860 IHCs."
I know, I was just illustrating what a pointed bust looks like
I know, I was just illustrating what a pointed bust looks like
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