Help with an AU coin puzzle please as it's a B-day present

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Help with an AU coin puzzle please as it's a B-day present

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Hello all!

I have a puzzle for you all I need help with. Here's the story:

I found a B-day gift for my daughter, who's "nom de plume"/pseudonym for her email has always been "phoenixdraco". The gift I'm buying is the 2017 Australian Phoenix Dragon 1 oz from the Perth Mint. What a find for my purpose as a gift, don't you think?! The Phoenix AND the Dragon as a coin design!!

I thought it would be cool to get a coin bezel also if she'd like to wear it as a necklace. But... I ran into a problem. And so the puzzle begins. I can't find a bezel to fit yet the diameter is the same as a one ounce American Eagle.

Here are the dimensions of the AU coin:

Australian 2017 Dragon & Phoenix 1oz Silver Bullion Coin:

Precious Metal Content (troy oz): 1.000
Fineness: 99.99% purity
Weight (g): 31.135
Diameter (mm): 40.600
Thickness (mm): 4.000
Edge: serrated


Same diameter as an American Eagle 1 Oz., right? But look at the thickness as compared the Eagle:


American Silver Eagle:

Mass 31.103 g (1.00 troy oz)
Diameter 40.6 mm (1.598 in)
Thickness 2.98 mm (0.1173 in)
Edge Reeded
Composition 99.9% Ag


The puzzel:

Same weight, same purity, same diameter but a 1.2 mm larger thickness???? How is that possible?

Buehler? Buehler??

What am I missing?

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#3 Unread post by Triple C »

It's all in the design...look at the Domed U.S. coins for example.

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#4 Unread post by daurian »

No.

Same weight and diameter so how can it be thicker?

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#5 Unread post by Earle42 »

Use a search engine for "made to order coin bezel." I took me a few seconds to find the place in the following link and download the PDF where they offer to make specialty bezels:
https://www.coincreations.com/systemhome.htm
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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#6 Unread post by Triple C »

daurian wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:23 pm No.

Same weight and diameter so how can it be thicker?
I gave you the answer and I gave you an example for you to research. I guess I have to show you. Please see the composition, weight, diameter, and thickness of both coins. You will notice, they are all the same except the thickness and it is based on the overall design on the dies.
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#7 Unread post by jaberwoke »

Earl42, Thanks for the link!

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Earle42 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:27 am Use a search engine for "made to order coin bezel." I took me a few seconds to find the place in the following link and download the PDF where they offer to make specialty bezels:
https://www.coincreations.com/systemhome.htm
Of course your best bet is to hunt around for a manufacturer they will have the proper size.

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#9 Unread post by Earle42 »

The link there was a catalog of a company which has a LOT of preset sizes for world coins. But in their list of coins from Oz, the Australian 2017 Dragon & Phoenix 1oz Silver Bullion Coin did not show up. Part of the PDF is the company saying they specialized in making bezels of any size.

You can find this coin pre-mounted for big bucks from sellers, but the individual bezels seem to have to be special order.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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