1891-CC Liberty Head Half Eagle $5 Gold Coin - What will it grade when it comes back?

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1891-CC Liberty Head Half Eagle $5 Gold Coin - What will it grade when it comes back?

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Hey there everyone! I hope you are all having a blessed day!
I figured I would post this on here to see what people think this will grade at when she comes back to me! I bought it a while ago and am just getting around to submitting to PCGS after quite some time in the "Deep stack".
I know some of you are amature experts in this area and I am curious what you think this will end up grading at?
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#2 Unread post by SensibleSal66 »

Anywhere between AU 50 - MS60 . Coins, Gold in General are hard to grade from Pics. . Let us know what she grades . : )
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Nice coin
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AU-55 Cleaned

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AU/MS Details - Cleaned
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#6 Unread post by Daniel »

No one can answer this based on images.

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Daniel wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:29 pm No one can answer this based on images.
Hey there everyone! Thanks for the replies! I uploaded the YouTube video with my coin in some lighting under the microscope :)



Feel free to chime in your thoughts now! Thanks again for all the help community! You guys are wonderful! Have a wonderfully blessed day and thanks again!

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Iceresistance wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:41 pm AU/MS Details - Cleaned
Hey there! Just uploaded a YouTube video with my coin attached under some lighting. Curious if you still think cleaned? And if so, why? I personally don’t see any directional scuff marks and am wondering if the fields lol soft?
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#9 Unread post by Daniel »

Coins in holders are not helpful and I am sorry that the video doesn't help. I recommend just sending the coin to ANACS, no membership and it's low fees.

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I have gotten a lot of positive feedback and thanks for the insights below. So I post them again here for you:
Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.


1. People seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. They ONLY GRADE coins and do NOT try to find errors on coins.

2. The grading companies are not a way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.

3. Watch some of Daniel's videos where he gets pieces back form the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living (like Daniel) can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays.

Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where (allegedly, but in reality its normally two) three graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.

If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. Personally having talked with former graders (granted - its been awhile), the process is very rushed since they told me graders are paid by how many coins they can get through in a day.

But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
Grading the Coin Graders

Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies

Also link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature. The verifiable data presented shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.

You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.

And…if you just like to collect slabbed coins for what they are, which makes losing/making money from slabs irrelevant, then of course enjoy them!"
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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#11 Unread post by OldSilverDollar »

If it was me I'd have any pre-1934 gold coin graded by PCGS. any oz. of gold is worth verification vs. an oz. of silver.
Thanks for the video it's a much nicer coin then 1st impression.

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#12 Unread post by Earle42 »

Please do NOT take what I ask as being argumentative b/c it is not - but typing never conveys intent so I make this statement first! 😊

You said:
If it was me I'd have any pre-1934 gold coin graded by PCGS. any oz. of gold is worth verification vs. an oz. of silver.
Is this an opinion b/c you are a slab collector? Although I am not, I do appreciate how they make a great way to display coins.

BTW...my only Eagle is slabbed.
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Earle42 wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:16 am Please do NOT take what I ask as being argumentative b/c it is not - but typing never conveys intent so I make this statement first! 😊

You said:
If it was me I'd have any pre-1934 gold coin graded by PCGS. any oz. of gold is worth verification vs. an oz. of silver.
Is this an opinion b/c you are a slab collector? Although I am not, I do appreciate how they make a great way to display coins.

BTW...my only Eagle is slabbed.
Any one oz. gold coin is worth grading even if it comes back only details grade as to verify its really gold. You can do that when something has a bullion price excluding numastic value of around $1900 give or take vs a silver coin that has most its value in numastics not the $26 or so spot price its worth. the means justify the cost.
Should thr OP Slab it? Absolutely.

Most of my coins are slabs due to buying online it's not a guarantee of course and I've been burned that way too but it's helpful most of the time.

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