"Hot Lips" Dimes Now Considered Die Clashes

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"Hot Lips" Dimes Now Considered Die Clashes

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"Hot Lips" Dimes Now Considered Die Clashes
by CONECA Variety Attributer,
James Wiles

Originally attributed as doubled dies by John Wexler and published by Ken Potter in Numismatic News, "hot lips" dimes were subsequently cataloged as doubled dies by CONECA as well. I had questions initially but was willing to agree with other attributers and list them as DDOs, until more information surfaced. It wasn't long until several additional specimens from varying dates and die states were reported. It was discovered that all had die clash marks and when overlays were made, the reverse design matched the doubled areas. I have now seen enough examples for me to conclude that the doubling is most likely the result of die clashing/abrasion and not from a doubled die. Other attributers are re-evaluating their positions. I remain open, but until I see an example without die clashing, I am no longer listing them in the CONECA Die Variety files. In fact, those that had been listed, have now been removed. See my study notes, overlays, and photos in the Roosevelt Dime E-Book.
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Thanks for the update.

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I'm going to do my own overlay also
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Out of curiosity, what happens to any coins that may have graded as a doubled die? No I don't have one but am just curious.

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That's a very good question......
I will have to ask someone higher up
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Paul, could you please put a link to he E-book you mention?
Fact Check the grading Companies:
Fact checking grading company shortcomings on NO FG halves:
https://tinyurl.com/yalrstjz or higher resolution version: https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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Is this what you're looking for?

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An already slabbed coin is just that, it will remain in the slab unlabeled but once word is out no one will buy it as a hot lips, this isn't the first time for this to happen.

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Paul:

This is what I was asking the link for:
See my study notes, overlays, and photos in the Roosevelt Dime E-Book.
Fact Check the grading Companies:
Fact checking grading company shortcomings on NO FG halves:
https://tinyurl.com/yalrstjz or higher resolution version: https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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Earle42 wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 11:17 pm Paul:

This is what I was asking the link for:
See my study notes, overlays, and photos in the Roosevelt Dime E-Book.
I'm going to have to search this one out.......

Here's an image of the overlay I made...... I don't see it, but what do I know
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