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1970 s penny what is going on with this thing

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Found this coin going through a jar of pennies. Any help would be great. Im trying to learn. The second picture is of Lincoln's forehead.
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please review forum rules, please provide full,large, clear, cropped images of the coin, obverse and reverse, one coin per topic. Thx.
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Hope the new pictures help. Second picture is of lincoln's forehead. Not sure oh to improve image quality.
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Can you screenshot instead of photographing the screen? It would help!

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I have a cheap microscope. Let me mess with it. I'm new to looking at errors. I've read all i could, but I cant tell if it's md, ddo, or something else. Thank you!

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it is a very clear case of machine doubling. worth face value.
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Makes sense.. Thank you for looking, I really appreciate it.

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Mick Ian Hill wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:28 pm Makes sense.. Thank you for looking, I really appreciate it.
you are welcome. an easy foolproof way to determine if a coin is machine dubled or an actual duble die is to look at the "dubbled" letters, if the dubbled letters/ devices has the same height as the non-doubled letters, there's a chance that the coin is a genuine doubled die. But if the two letters have diffrent heights, which is visible on your coin, it's a machine doubled coin.
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JTCC wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:44 pm
Mick Ian Hill wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:28 pm Makes sense.. Thank you for looking, I really appreciate it.
you are welcome. an easy foolproof way to determine if a coin is machine dubled or an actual duble die is to look at the "dubbled" letters, if the dubbled letters/ devices has the same height as the non-doubled letters, there's a chance that the coin is a genuine doubled die. But if the two letters have diffrent heights, which is visible on your coin, it's a machine doubled coin.
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#10 Unread post by Earle42 »

JTCC posted:
Please review forum rules, please provide full,large, clear, cropped images of the coin, obverse and reverse, one coin per topic.
Yet the next time you added pictures, you did not follow the forum guidelines and fix what he mentioned.

Remember this for the next thread you start please.

I have a cheap microscope. Let me mess with it.
Look for the screenshot option which will download a picture into your computer so there will not be pixellation and interference patterns that distort important details.

Here is something else to help you find actual errors:
Save Yourself time, effort, and disappointment...don’t learn the coin hobby backwards. 😊

Looking for random anomalies on coins and hoping they match up to something collectable will take you a lot more time, wasted effort, and disappointment repeatedly finding out you have nothing but post mint damage.

Spend some initial time at places like error-ref.com, doubleddie.com, varietyvista.com, conecaonline.org, coppercoins.com etc. to find what actual and collectable coin errors look like.

A good way to start is, for instance, separate a bunch of pennies by date. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins.😊
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Paul wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:12 pm
JTCC wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:44 pm
Mick Ian Hill wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:28 pm Makes sense.. Thank you for looking, I really appreciate it.
you are welcome. an easy foolproof way to determine if a coin is machine doubled or an actual doubled die is to look at the "dubbled" letters, if the dubbled letters/ devices has the same height as the non-doubled letters, there's a chance that the coin is a genuine doubled die. But if the two letters have diffrent heights, which is visible on your coin, it's a machine doubled coin.
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I guess I explained that poorly. Here’s a picture example of what I was talking about.
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#12 Unread post by Earle42 »

Doubled die. The die striking the coins has a doubled image. The coins are not actually "doubled dies," they are coins struck with a doubled die.
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Earle42 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:52 am Doubled die. The die striking the coins has a doubled image. The coins are not actually "doubled dies," they are coins struck with a doubled die.

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Thanks for the quick word check, corrected.
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