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I have this 1968-D half and I'm sure it's a die variety. The only visibly doubled spots I found are on WE TRUST (sorry for the photo quality - the split bottom serif on the S is still quite visible though). Here's the question, which one is it? The closest match would be the TDO FS-101 but I'm not sure. Any opinions?
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Based on the Photo's ,I don't see any doubling . Try this for better Pics .
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Man, I knew I was going to receive this info. I'll do my best when I'll be able to!

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#5 Unread post by Earle42 »

What letters are you specifically seeing the doubling on? I cannot see any, but it could be the lighting and pics.

Sal's setup for taking pics works very well. Set the timer of the phone to take the pic to eliminate movement from your finger touching the phone.
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Alright, I got some better photos. Hope they'll be enough!
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TomekD wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:16 pm Alright, I got some better photos. Hope they'll be enough!
These pics are much better. I can absolutely see what you're talking about on the coin now.

It's looking to me like your DDO HAS already been found, and if so likely one of these two on Variety Vista. Try to get your date from a couple different lighting angles and see if you can identify any doubling/tripling, especially in the bottom of the '8' on 1968. I highly recommend consulting Variety Vista and reading through not just the Double Die sections, but also how they happen to get a better understanding of what you're looking at. I'm brand new to the hobby myself but these resources have helped me tremendously and saved a lot of grief. 🙂

http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kennedy%20 ... DDO001.htm
http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kennedy%20 ... DDO003.htm

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CoinPyro wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:17 pm
TomekD wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:16 pm Alright, I got some better photos. Hope they'll be enough!
These pics are much better. I can absolutely see what you're talking about on the coin now.

It's looking to me like your DDO HAS already been found, and if so likely one of these two on Variety Vista. Try to get your date from a couple different lighting angles and see if you can identify any doubling/tripling, especially in the bottom of the '8' on 1968. I highly recommend consulting Variety Vista and reading through not just the Double Die sections, but also how they happen to get a better understanding of what you're looking at. I'm brand new to the hobby myself but these resources have helped me tremendously and saved a lot of grief. 🙂

http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kennedy%20 ... DDO001.htm
http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kennedy%20 ... DDO003.htm
I've looked at variety vista before making this thread and at that time no posts there were a match (I was able to notice less splits with the equipment I initially used) - right now it definitely resembles the TDO. Thanks anyway! :)
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#9 Unread post by Earle42 »

Your last pics are much improved. I annotated your last pic to show you what I *think* I can see in the picture.

The text and arrows are color coded. Some of the details you have circled in the other photo are hard to see as well.

I think you have both a DDO and MD as well. But am not sure which DDO.
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Earle42 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:32 pm I annotated your last pic to show you what I *think* I can see in the picture.

The text and arrows are color coded. Some of the details you have circled in the other photo are hard to see as well.
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Ok, thanks! What about the other areas I marked (the serifs on the U and so on)? Do you think they are doubled too? They look so to me but I still want to ask someone who knows more than me...

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#11 Unread post by Earle42 »

The problem is I thought I could see hint of doubling in some of those areas, but the lighting is hiding them in the pics. I used to roll search specifically for DDOs, DDRs, ROMs, errors etc. on Kennedy halves (over 189,000). So I saw a lot of the minor DDOs, and used to set them all aside. I just never got around to labeling them with exact varieties. I was too interested in "just one more roll!"

If you want to get some pics with different lighting angles, they might show better. And while these last pictures are much better, you can get a very inexpensive macro lens for your phone or lust use a loupe beneath the lens.

Or for very high power - my home made junky scrap-made solution I used to us. It can get better pics than my actual dissecting microscope:

I used to use the lens from a laser pointer (mounted it so I could strap it onto the lens) and got pics like this:
1964 DDO Kennedy Half ... splits on serifs on U in TRUST
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Ugly, and dirt cheap macro (providing you can find one of the older laser pointers - check a dollar store)
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Scrap plastic and lens broken out of laser pointer:
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Ugly plastic electirc taped to back of iPhone 42
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Old CD for stage to hold phone up off surface. Water bottle caps for legs supports for CD.
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iPhone with macro in situ on top of water-bottle-cap-supported CD.
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It's a "LeeGyver"....... Awesome
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😂😂😂

I grew up with two sets of grandparents who lived through the 1st Great Depression (obama's being the legit second one). So finding a way to do a job rather than spending money was ingrained into me from the time I was small. But it was always presented like a game and a challenge - so it was fun.

Once I saw the concept worked, I changed the setup to be a bit better with scrap wood, a 1.00 iPhone mount, a couple of bolts, and a crystal-looking adjustment knob from a...well...a plastic deodorant dispenser😂:
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Earle42 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:32 pm 😂😂😂

I grew up with two sets of grandparents who lived through the 1st Great Depression (obama's being the legit second one). So finding a way to do a job rather than spending money was ingrained into me from the time I was small. But it was always presented like a game and a challenge - so it was fun.

Once I saw the concept worked, I changed the setup to be a bit better with scrap wood, a 1.00 iPhone mount, a couple of bolts, and a crystal-looking adjustment knob from a...well...a plastic deodorant dispenser😂:

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Those are some good DIY work and ideas right there, creative!
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