1909-s indian head, maybe

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1909-s indian head, maybe

#1 Unread post by mas_pdx »

Hi,

This belongs to a friend - and he's unsure if it is legit. The "s" is very feint. Anyone have views on this?

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Re: 1909-s indian head, maybe

#2 Unread post by SensibleSal66 »

Hard to see but it looks like it's in the wrong position too .
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#3 Unread post by monsterbug1 »

looks suspicious, but hard to be sure. I would take it to a local PCGS authorized dealer and see what they think

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I would send it to ANACS to questionable.

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#5 Unread post by mas_pdx »

Hi

Just so I have a better understanding of the issue at hand, what aspect is suspicious or questionable? when I compare the placement of the "s" with images on pcgs it seems that the "s" is in the correct location. is the issue the shape of the "s" (which admittedly is hard to see) or how feint it is? or are there other features on either side that don't appear right?

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#6 Unread post by Earle42 »

Very difficult to tell inside the plastic with light reflecting off of it.

What I can see makes me think it could be a cast copy because of the porous nature. Better, and straight on pics outside the plastic would make it easier to assess.
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#7 Unread post by mas_pdx »

I hear you, Earle. since it doesn't belong to me - I don't want to remove it from the cardboard holder. I can try to take and post (if it works out with the lighting) better photos, otherwise I'll take it to a coin star a few miles away...

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store, not star

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#9 Unread post by Earle42 »

Good idea. They will likely be able to tell. Someone who has seen and studied fakes can catch a good majority of them.

Another way to tell is to do an analysis of known mint mark positions, and also an overlay onto a good picture of yours. Most fakes will fail an overlay test.
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Hi

I took more photos - closer and more direct. I'll take it a store tomorrow for their views. any / all thoughts much appreciated.

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#11 Unread post by Daniel »

Send it to ANACS it's the only way to be sure, more pics isn't going to help.

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#12 Unread post by Musicbox man63 »

the s isn't "boxy" enough.... fake.
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#13 Unread post by Earle42 »

Pics remind me of a badly cast fake.
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