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I think I know the answer to this question, but I would like other people’s opinion as well. Sorry for being long-winded but I would like to get my thoughts and questions in before they are shot down. The marks on the front seem as though they were pushed through because I can see an image protruding from the back of the coin, which could mean this was deliberately done after the coin was minted. Not sure why the two indentations are not the same shape if someone used a tool to do this. The image on the back of the coin, where the Eagles leg is missing is also indented but I don't see a protrusion on the front of the coin and the shape is different than the two on the front of the coin. The lower indentation on the front of the coin is almost perfectly round but the extrusion on the back is not. I've been looking at strike through Errors and die chips to see if they could be responsible for the condition of this coin. For those that don't know what a strike through coin is, below is two definitions, and one definition of a die chip. So now you have all the reasons I question what seems to be the obvious. All comments and views are welcome.

What is a "strike through" error? Simply put, it is anything which is struck into the coin, but which was not "retained" in the strike.

Struck throughs occur when a piece of foreign material comes between the die and a planchet during striking. The coin is said to be “struck through” the foreign material, which leaves behind an impression on the coin's surface.

Die chips are small, isolated chunks of metal that break away from the die, usually in the middle of the coin away from the rim. A die chip on a coin appears as a raised mound of metal, and these die chips can range in size from very small to quite large. Most die chips are less than 1 millimeter in size.
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Paul wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:47 pm Multiple BB shots
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You're thinking to hard, you want the coin to be something it is not but you really know it's not, so you're struggling with the truth and fighting it. You need to be less emotionally involved in your coins, they're are what.

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#5 Unread post by Earle42 »

Agree with all of the above. Nothing at the mint can do this. Research how the minting process is done. It makes for more easily identifying true errors.

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bong06 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:56 am1978 1 cent

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I hope anyone reading the post "1978 1 cent" in my post titled "Could this be a mint error" realizes that I didn't post under anyone else's topic. I'm not sure why these comments for "1978 1 cent" are under my post.
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Daniel wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:08 pm You're thinking to hard, you want the coin to be something it is not but you really know it's not, so you're struggling with the truth and fighting it. You need to be less emotionally involved in your coins, they're are what.

Hello Daniel, I value and respect your opinions on all things coins and currency but in respect to your comment on my post I'm not as emotional about the coins as reading your comments suggest. I think anyone posting comments in this section is hoping to find something of value and to gain knowledge. From the knowledge I've gained in the last few months you'd be surprised how many coins I now realized I had returned to the bank that was more valuable than I expected, and I would've never known without asking questions which is what my post was all about. To someone as experienced as you I'm sure you find these comments boring. I would rather ask a stupid question before I made a stupid mistake that my regrets can’t change. I do agree with everyone that the coin is damage. I was curious as what caused the marks.

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I don't just know coins, but I know this business and people VERY well. Some think it's arrogance or being "cocky" or what-not but such is not the case, I have decades of experience in this. So with that, the fact you posted all you did about a damaged coin IS because you're struggling with this coin and what it really is. You want this to be a strike through and afraid you're going to spend it and it's actually something. However, the coin is damaged and you don't need to worry.

Furthermore, unless you turned in a known and rare doubled die coin back to the bank, I can assure you that you haven't sent a coin to the bank that was more valuable than you expected. If you stick with known errors and the valuable varieties then you will be just fine, trust me. I see more coins than the average Joe and that includes rolls and tubs of pocket change so I see a much larger sample and most are common, circulated and damaged coins.

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Daniel wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:19 pm I don't just know coins, but I know this business and people VERY well. Some think it's arrogance or being "cocky" or what-not but such is not the case, I have decades of experience in this. So with that, the fact you posted all you did about a damaged coin IS because you're struggling with this coin and what it really is. You want this to be a strike through and afraid you're going to spend it and it's actually something. However, the coin is damaged and you don't need to worry.

Furthermore, unless you turned in a known and rare doubled die coin back to the bank, I can assure you that you haven't sent a coin to the bank that was more valuable than you expected. If you stick with known errors and the valuable varieties then you will be just fine, trust me. I see more coins than the average Joe and that includes rolls and tubs of pocket change so I see a much larger sample and most are common, circulated and damaged coins.

Hi Daniel, thanks for your comments. I did watch your YouTube video on damage coins, and I now understand your point of view. I will search for your videos in a future before posting anymore questions that your videos may answer.
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#11 Unread post by Earle42 »

Just clearing things up:
The following was not aimed at you.
I hope anyone reading the post "1978 1 cent" in my post titled "Could this be a mint error" realizes that I didn't post under anyone else's topic. I'm not sure why these comments for "1978 1 cent" are under my post.
A user named Bong had posted his coin here and then deleted it after being told he needed to start his own thread. You can see my reply was meant for Bong by the:
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preceding my entry.

DSCoins also quoted Bong as seen in the quotation he used.

Evidently Bong deleted his entry before you had seen it.
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