Is this considered a mint error on a 2009 D presidential dollar ?

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Is this considered a mint error on a 2009 D presidential dollar ?

#1 Unread post by RoadStarSlim »

I'm really new to this so I apologize if I'm off base.

I've only looked though about 3,000 of the presidential dollars and this was the first one that I found that was not like the others.

The space between the stars and the year is rather wide and the space after the date and before the mint mark was fairly small.
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#2 Unread post by DSCoins »

I highly recommend you study the following sites. Error-Ref and Wexler's Coins and Die Varieties These sites will help teach you about what a variety/ errors coin looks like. I also suggest that until you learn the above and what can and cannot happen to a coin at the mint. You need to stick to looking for known errors. You will find what the TPGs will recognize as varieties on the PCGS. This will save you a lot of time in having to take photos and then posting them, only to told it is not what you think.

As for your coin, I believe that what you are seeing may fall within the mint specifications. I would wait until someone with more knowledge on the Presidential Dollars gives a more definitive answer.
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#3 Unread post by RoadStarSlim »

It appears that NGC does consider this a error coin. I've posted this so that maybe future questions on this can be found through a search.

https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/45 ... lar-Coins/

"Now here is a sampling of the George Washington Dollar error coins that we have seen to date. The first group of errors show improperly spaced edge letters and partial edge letters. This occurs when the coins "slip" as they are run through the edge lettering machine. In some cases these errors are accompanied by Mint caused damage as the coins "slip" in the edge die. Note that to be recognized by NGC as Mint Error, the improper spacing must be significant and noteworthy."

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#4 Unread post by Iceresistance »

I once had the Edge Letters put on the wrong side on a Dollar Coin, but I don't know where it went . . .
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#5 Unread post by Earle42 »

@RoadStarSlim
Thanks for the link, its a good read.

I see at that link that NGC says, "Note that to be recognized by NGC as Mint Error, the improper spacing must be significant and noteworthy."

I would think going to Heritage auctions and looking for sold items might give an idea of what they mean by "significant and noteworthy."

"Professional" grading and their "skill" at variety attribution is all subjective and a gamble anyway. They often get variety attribution wrong*. So I am of the opinion the above research would help YOU determine what you have, but not so sure a grading company would see it that way even though it is what they have done in the past.

*See the link in my signature for an eye opening read (all linked to PCGS and their own data) on how poor their record is for the rookie-level "No FG" Kennedy half variety identification. People have thousand$ b/c of trusting their services in this area.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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