2016-D Lincoln Penny w/ multiple errors (Die Clash, Die Break, Strike Through, Lamination...)??? I DON'T KNOW!!!

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2016-D Lincoln Penny w/ multiple errors (Die Clash, Die Break, Strike Through, Lamination...)??? I DON'T KNOW!!!

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Hello Everyone,

I am new to coin collecting and coin roll hunting. Been doing it for a few months now. Two days ago, while coin roll hunting, I found a very strange 2016-D Lincoln Penny. It seems to have multiple minting errors on the Obverse. Most importantly, an image of the reverse shield design can be seen underlying the Obverse image. The shield design appears inverted - the "ONE" of "ONE CENT" reading right to left across the shield banner beneath the date. The outline of the shield and inner shield lines are visible running up through Lincoln's image. The coin also contains lamentation bubbles and retained (and non-retained) lamentation errors. There also appears to be a lengthy die crack running from the rim, up through Lincoln's shoulder on the left side of the obverse image.

I certainly could use some help identifying everything that is going on with this coin.

Thanks to everyone in advance. I hope the attached pictures help.
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#2 Unread post by Coin Mule »

Hi S welcome. That is Post Mint Damage, or a parking lot coin. It ended up obverse down into the parking lot then run over a few good times. But keep hunting
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#3 Unread post by SensibleSal66 »

Must agree , Post Mint Damage .
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Thank you for your analysis. But I wonder how the reverse image of a shield can be imprinted on the obverse simply by being run over a few times by a car? The rest of the damage certainly could have occurred in the manner you suggest. But it seems to me that the shield image had to have been struck on the planchet prior to the obverse design being struck over it. But then again, I'm a green newbie coin collector and struggling to understand this whole wonderful business. Thank you all again for your experience and insight. I look forward to communicating with you guys on this site for years, and many amazing discoveries, to come.

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Notice how the writing is "Mirror Image Backward", this is because a different coin was pressed into your coins surface, transferring that other coins image into your coin
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#7 Unread post by sejory318 »

Hi Paul, it makes sense that the reverse of one coin can be pressed into the obverse of another coin and leave a backward mirror image, but the date on this 2016-D is in very good condition (numbers raised and sharp, etc...). Wouldn't the date be pressed flat, or altered in some way, had another coin been pressed so hard into the obverse surface as to leave said impression? I would think the date would have been smashed or affected in some way. Could it be possible that the shield could have been impressed, in the way you suggest, on a blank planchet prior to the obverse being struck? With all the other damage being done post mint? That would at least explain how the date has remained in rather prestine condition. Thank you again for your much appreciated help and observations.

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#8 Unread post by Earle42 »

We see many coins here where someone glued a coin to another and then separated the coins. This leaves reverse impressions as well. Putting this coin into acetone would remove glue residue and the impression also (if it is glue). I suspect this is the case since, as you say, the numbers in the date are not flattened.
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I will do exactly as you suggest. How long should I leave the coin in acetone?

Thank you for the advice.

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Looking much closer at your images, I have to agree with Earl42.
It appears that there is a foreign substance on the surface of this coin.

I had a hard time reading the images the way that they were snapped.
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I am purchasing some acetone from Home Depot this morning. I will let the coin soak for a few minutes and see what happens. If the shield still shows on the obverse, I will try taking and uploading better pictures. If the shield disappears, I will let everyone know. Again, thank you all for your continued assistance. I working very hard to become knowledgeable in this industry. Your support is greatly encouraging. Thx.

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I will be purchasing acetone from Home Depot this morning. I will let the coin soak a few minutes in the acetone. If the shield image persists, I will try to take better pictures and upload them to this post. If the shield disappears, I will let everyone know. Thanks again for your continued support. It is encouraging to have found such a knowledgeable and helpful community. I have a lot to learn, but I am willing and able to put in the required work. Thank you.

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#13 Unread post by Earle42 »

It should not take more than a minute or so to remove glue residue (if this is what it is). Remember acetone is NOT toxic.

Do not use it in a plastic container as it can dissolve some plastics and make a mess. a porcelain cup/glass/old jar (clean) would be fin. No need to use a ton of acetone. Just cover the coin and maybe a 1/4" or so above it will be more than enough.

Do not leave the coin in the acetone long enough to evaporate all of the acetone away (inside the soaking jar) b/c this would put the dissovled residue back onto the coin and the chemically changed and re-deposited-onto-the-coin-residue is near impossible to get off again.
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#14 Unread post by Joseppi »

Iv had a very similar coin, infact I believe it was a 2016 shielded penny like yours except crystal clear images on both front and back of penny, yeah the shield was somehow pressed so cleanly onto the front over Lincoln annnnd it was on the reverse two times, one shield upside down from the other, I couldn't understand how the percision was so clean and indented without damaging the coin or it's collar, nothing about the rim of the collar looked flattened, you would think that if someone put it in a vice that it would of did the collar in too in order to put such perfect mirror images of shield on both sides of coin.....very interesting!!?? Did you ever have yours graded or looked at?

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#16 Unread post by Daniel »

Someone used clear glue to do this, you have no idea how many times we see this. Also please read the forum title, this isn't for posting coins in. Use general topics or mint error forum.

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