Kennedy Half Dollar struck thru grease or damaged?

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Kennedy Half Dollar struck thru grease or damaged?

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I found this 1986-P Kennedy Half Dollar coin roll hunting. Is this a die grease error or after mint damage? It looks as if a staple fell onto the coin NW of "D' in God but later
fell off. There is also rim damage just to the left of 6:00 which makes me think it could be after mint damage. If it IS mint damage should I have it graded or sell it raw? your opinion means a lot to me, thank you in advance!!
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#2 Unread post by Daniel »

Could be struck through but can't really tell based on these images.

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#3 Unread post by SensibleSal66 »

I was thinking the same thing , need better pics .
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Hi Daniel & Sal, thank you for replying. I've added a few more photos in different lighting. I hope they help. If not, is there a specific angle(s) you would like to see? Please let me know and I'll get them uploaded asap. Thanks again, Denise
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#5 Unread post by Earle42 »

Pics seem to show unusual roughness in the affected area that might be struck through. Out of focus though when zooming, so hard to tell.
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Are we sure that this is not just a surface contaminant?
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#7 Unread post by Daniel »

Either way, this doesn't add value to the coin, but I can't really tell what is going on. Sorry

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#8 Unread post by Coin Mule »

Hey Newb, I am with Paul on this. Looks like contamination of some type, I would say acid, there is that funky rainbow blotchiness, which generally indicates acid. If I had to guess, battery acid from being stuck under the battery of a 1985 Yugo. You are too young to remember the Yugo, but some of us here still remember and laugh.
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Silly, I'm obsessing over a coin that is not worth more than face value!! I've watched so many of Daniel's videos that I actually hear his voice in my head telling me to "MOVE ON"!! So, this is my last attempt for an answer by submitting pics that you can zoom in on. Your time is valued & very much appreciated. :-)
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#10 Unread post by Earle42 »

Silly, I'm obsessing over a coin that is not worth more than face value!!
Not really. Its a learning experience. IN this case, what is stopping a better answer is that this coin just refuses to be photographed.

Here are my thoughts form the pics:
Struck through grease coins typically have the area smooth looking - yours appears scratched and soiled. But it is possible to have ben struck through grease and then damaged in circulation.

I do not think acid was used to make that entire area look like it does b/c the mint mark is still there but surrounded by the affected area.

If there is a corresponding area in this exact position on the REV of the coin where the design is somewhat flattened, then the front was flattened in this area by being hit. But then again there is that P mint mark showing in the damaged area, so my guess is no damage in the REV side!)

2. I see the rim appear intact. Although not conclusive, this might also point to it not being damaged from some sort of blows onto the surface.

3. The new pics seem to show some scratch marks (cannot tell for sure) throughout the whole area.

So my guess:
Struck through grease, then the area was messed up in circulation.

If you want to obsess some more (fun isn't it!?) let this thing soak in acetone for 30 seconds or so and see if the black stuff comes off. It might give a clearer pic of the surface.

Whatever it is...besides a mystery and learning experience...like you said...face value.
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#11 Unread post by Daniel »

Problem is you can't always know how a coin was damaged and you can only "see" so much in images, even when you can zoom in.

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Hi Earle & the community, my apologies for not answering sooner. I took your advice, Earle. I ordered pure acetone, and dipped the coin for 30 seconds this morning. Aside from the coin being a bit cleaner, the results weren't as good as I hoped. As you see, the pictures look pretty much the same as they did before the dip. And...you're right, this coin does not photograph well AT ALL!!

On the reverse, there does not appear to be any denting in the area in question but I do see a little rim damage (as seen in previous photos). When I run my finger across the area it feels smooth but, when I use my fingernail, I do feel the dips where the scratches are. After watching more videos about die grease errors & then looking at eBays past sales on coins with die grease errors, I am confident with your opinion "Die Grease Error with After Mint Damage on the said area.

Thanks again for your time, most appreciated as always,
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Coin Mule wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:52 pm Hey Newb, I am with Paul on this. Looks like contamination of some type, I would say acid, there is that funky rainbow blotchiness, which generally indicates acid. If I had to guess, battery acid from being stuck under the battery of a 1985 Yugo. You are too young to remember the Yugo, but some of us here still remember and laugh.
That's funny Coin Mule, thanks for the laugh. I graduated High School in '85 and remember the Yugo well!!

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#14 Unread post by Earle42 »

Well at least now you have acetone to use for other things you may find! Its all a fun learning process.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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