Help.. possibly found a 1964 P SMS Lincoln Penny

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Help.. possibly found a 1964 P SMS Lincoln Penny

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Ok now there's pictures...I just need too know who too trust with this possible 1964 SMS Lincoln Penny...I'd like to get it proffesnally verified if that even exist before forking out the dough to PGCS to get graded
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Re: Help.. possibly found a 1964 P SMS Lincoln Penny

#2 Unread post by Iceresistance »

The 1964 SMS coins do exist, but they are very rare!

The main difference is the finish, the images below are from PCGS
Here is the 1964 RD Business Strike
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From Collectors Universe:

"The edges for most 1964 SMS coins also tend to be square and sharp. The bust and legends are usually highly detailed and sharp on most examples, especially when compared to circulation strike coins. The surfaces are non-reflective compared to proof coins of the era, yet, are not the same finish as regular issue coins from the same year."
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This is a normal proof cent and not an SMS. They didn’t come in those packages and wasn’t released for collectors or anyone for that matter.

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Hi Daniel may I start off by saying I'm a huge fan of yours...but I've heard that some may have possibly been slipped in with the proof sets no one's really sure...I know it's a long shot but I have a 1963 proof mint set and I've compared the two and the 1964 I have covers all the criteria that I've heard...satin finish, no reflection, blocked edges, squared rim high detail I mean everything...by all means Daniel I highly respect your expertize and mean 0 disrespect but I can't shake that I may have something here...I know you personally don't inspect coins from random people...my question is do you know someone I can trust to send it too in there hands and properly inspect the coin so I can know for sure

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E012073 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:14 am Hi Daniel may I start off by saying I'm a huge fan of yours...but I've heard that some may have possibly been slipped in with the proof sets no one's really sure...I know it's a long shot but I have a 1963 proof mint set and I've compared the two and the 1964 I have covers all the criteria that I've heard...satin finish, no reflection, blocked edges, squared rim high detail I mean everything...by all means Daniel I highly respect your expertize and mean 0 disrespect but I can't shake that I may have something here...I know you personally don't inspect coins from random people...my question is do you know someone I can trust to send it too in there hands and properly inspect the coin so I can know for sure
something along the lines of what you mentioned can be done by submitting the coin to a major TPG(PCGS,NGC), in order for them to inspect it and authenticate the coin.
However I strongly do not recommend you to do that as there is expendsive fees involved in that process and this coin does not match the appearance of the 64' SMS and is likely not a SMS.
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#7 Unread post by Earle42 »

Why not send it to Paul? See his avatar. He inspects coins for your members and I would easily trust his opinions ver any grading service. See the essay in my signature about PCGS not being able or consistent in labeling No FG Kennedy halves. The data there is linked from their website and verifiable.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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Re: Help.. possibly found a 1964 P SMS Lincoln Penny

#8 Unread post by Daniel »

Sorry but there’s no expert or mint statement saying any slipped through and into proof sets. You heard inaccurate information. You should be reading what is known as fact about these and forgo the unfounded speculations. You will be disappointed if you continue down this path.

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