Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
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Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
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I was looking at one of my proof sets and I find out that this 1968s sealed proof set contains a Kennedy Half dollar have an error at the word LIBERTY so besides reading Liberty it’s look like LIREPTY and I searched everywhere online for some informations about this specific error but can’t find any answers and i watch every single video at your Channel too to get educated and get some helpful informations and I end up here asking for you guys advice and opinion,I wish you guys can help me with any information about what I think it’s an error or a new discovery.
Thank you so much in Advance for your time and the helpful information .
I was looking at one of my proof sets and I find out that this 1968s sealed proof set contains a Kennedy Half dollar have an error at the word LIBERTY so besides reading Liberty it’s look like LIREPTY and I searched everywhere online for some informations about this specific error but can’t find any answers and i watch every single video at your Channel too to get educated and get some helpful informations and I end up here asking for you guys advice and opinion,I wish you guys can help me with any information about what I think it’s an error or a new discovery.
Thank you so much in Advance for your time and the helpful information .
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
Hello and welcome to the community!
As far as the coin goes. Still
As far as the coin goes. Still
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
You're allowing the reflective surfaces to fool your eyes here, some devices can have partial cameo and have slightly different finishes as the die face wears down from use. It's normal and why you shouldn't use such high magnification.
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
Pareidolia
You're trying to hard to find something that's not there
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
Welcome to the community.
Normal coin.
Normal coin.
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
1. Welcome. We are glad you are here with us
2. Your microscope is fooling you into missing the idea that the letters were deliberately designed to look like this.
The Kennedy half dollar was designed to make it look like the word LIBERTY passes behind President Kennedy's head.
3.
Save Yourself time, effort, and disappointment...don’t learn the coin hobby backwards.
Most odd looking things on coins are just post mint damage. So looking for random anomalies on coins and hoping they match up to something collectable will take you a lot more time, wasted effort, and disappointment repeatedly finding out you have nothing but post mint damage or useless machine doubling, die deterioration, etc.
Spend some initial time at places like error-ref.com, doubleddie.com, varietyvista.com, conecaonline.org, coppercoins.com etc. to find what actual and collectable coin errors look like.
A good way to start is, for instance, separate a bunch of pennies by date. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins.
2. Your microscope is fooling you into missing the idea that the letters were deliberately designed to look like this.
The Kennedy half dollar was designed to make it look like the word LIBERTY passes behind President Kennedy's head.
3.
Save Yourself time, effort, and disappointment...don’t learn the coin hobby backwards.
Most odd looking things on coins are just post mint damage. So looking for random anomalies on coins and hoping they match up to something collectable will take you a lot more time, wasted effort, and disappointment repeatedly finding out you have nothing but post mint damage or useless machine doubling, die deterioration, etc.
Spend some initial time at places like error-ref.com, doubleddie.com, varietyvista.com, conecaonline.org, coppercoins.com etc. to find what actual and collectable coin errors look like.
A good way to start is, for instance, separate a bunch of pennies by date. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
This coin is sealed so it’s not used or even taking out yet from the set and thank you everyone for the valuable informations even wasn’t helpful as I was expecting and I use some high quality coin magnifier plus a Coin Microscope and with the magnifier and the Microscope I get the same results it’s not as should be but who knows maybe PCGS will have another opinion, I will let you guys know the final results after sending this coin for grading.
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
You are about to lose some money.
I hope it is worth the time to read the following about what grading companies do, and do NOT do. B/c what you are saying you want them to do is NOT what will happen when you send it in. They will grade it ONLY and never answer you as to why they did not do what you thought they were going to do...ID an alleged error.
It's long, but the following will let you know what a lot of people in your place WISH they had known before sending coins in.
If you enjoy losing money, skip reading the following essay
The Insider's Guide to Using Grading Companies
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Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.
Popular mistaken mindset:
1. The grading companies are not a method/way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.
In general, the coin you have found in circulation is NOT going to make huge profits if slabbed. Way too many people pad the pockets of the companies and get nothing in return b/c they THINK (youtube videos!) they have something rare.
Professional predicting not possible:
2. Watch some of Daniel's videos where he gets slabbed coins back from the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living (like Daniel) can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays:
a. Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where allegedly three, but in reality its normally two, graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed and paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.
b. If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (extreme and a bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (extreme and a great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. This subjectivity makes for greater company profits since people resubmit the same coin trying to get a higher (better price when selling) grade. In the 90s the companies, at great expense, created better (their own words) scientific methods not relying upon human opinion. No doubt the large profit from the re-slabbing game fell. The companies abandoned the science and went back to their less accurate systems.
c. It needs be mentioned that the fewer the "money grade" slabs a company assigns, the more prices of said slabs climbs. Thus more business is generated b/c more people pay to slab coins hoping to get that "money grade" slab. And the companies do keep records (accessible online) of how many of the higher graded slabs exist for each coin. While the idea of keeping money grade slabs minimized is speculative, there has been some convincing evidence of this being reality.
But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
Grading the Coin Graders
Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies
Error on errors:
3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find and ID an error for you. You must FIRST ID the error yourself, CHECK to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for! The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors incorrectly.
Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example. Sadly, the verifiable data presented from the PCGS website shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.
Cost concerns:
4. B/c people do not understand the businesses, so very many people end up with spending far more money to slab a coin than the coin is worth. The companies profit greatly with membership fees, submission fees, insurance fees, priority shipping fees and extra (chosen) fees. When you do the math for all of these fees you are approaching $150-200.00 for a slabbed coin the very first time you submit. ANACs does not have all these fees though.
You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.
I hope it is worth the time to read the following about what grading companies do, and do NOT do. B/c what you are saying you want them to do is NOT what will happen when you send it in. They will grade it ONLY and never answer you as to why they did not do what you thought they were going to do...ID an alleged error.
It's long, but the following will let you know what a lot of people in your place WISH they had known before sending coins in.
If you enjoy losing money, skip reading the following essay
The Insider's Guide to Using Grading Companies
-or-
Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.
Popular mistaken mindset:
1. The grading companies are not a method/way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.
In general, the coin you have found in circulation is NOT going to make huge profits if slabbed. Way too many people pad the pockets of the companies and get nothing in return b/c they THINK (youtube videos!) they have something rare.
Professional predicting not possible:
2. Watch some of Daniel's videos where he gets slabbed coins back from the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living (like Daniel) can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays:
a. Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where allegedly three, but in reality its normally two, graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed and paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.
b. If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (extreme and a bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (extreme and a great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. This subjectivity makes for greater company profits since people resubmit the same coin trying to get a higher (better price when selling) grade. In the 90s the companies, at great expense, created better (their own words) scientific methods not relying upon human opinion. No doubt the large profit from the re-slabbing game fell. The companies abandoned the science and went back to their less accurate systems.
c. It needs be mentioned that the fewer the "money grade" slabs a company assigns, the more prices of said slabs climbs. Thus more business is generated b/c more people pay to slab coins hoping to get that "money grade" slab. And the companies do keep records (accessible online) of how many of the higher graded slabs exist for each coin. While the idea of keeping money grade slabs minimized is speculative, there has been some convincing evidence of this being reality.
But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
Grading the Coin Graders
Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies
Error on errors:
3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find and ID an error for you. You must FIRST ID the error yourself, CHECK to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for! The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors incorrectly.
Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example. Sadly, the verifiable data presented from the PCGS website shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.
Cost concerns:
4. B/c people do not understand the businesses, so very many people end up with spending far more money to slab a coin than the coin is worth. The companies profit greatly with membership fees, submission fees, insurance fees, priority shipping fees and extra (chosen) fees. When you do the math for all of these fees you are approaching $150-200.00 for a slabbed coin the very first time you submit. ANACs does not have all these fees though.
You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
Oh yeah I love and enjoy wasting my money for sure and when I share this post here I was looking for some valuable informations from some educated and smart people about this specific coin not about anything else so if you think this is not an error you can write that and I will respect your opinion besides that it’s a waste of time to go somewhere to copy some stupid informations to share here I watch every single video of Daniel and that’s the main reason to be here and asking for some VALUABLE informations if any about this specific coin.
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
SOFIANO-207 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:16 am it’s a waste of time to go somewhere to copy some stupid informations to share here
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
Earles an admin here and he’s trying to educate you or encourage you to research. He’s an admin and a good man. His copy and paste are more helpful than a double word answer or short sentence.SOFIANO-207 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:16 am Oh yeah I love and enjoy wasting my money for sure and when I share this post here I was looking for some valuable informations from some educated and smart people about this specific coin not about anything else so if you think this is not an error you can write that and I will respect your opinion besides that it’s a waste of time to go somewhere to copy some stupid informations to share here I watch every single video of Daniel and that’s the main reason to be here and asking for some VALUABLE informations if any about this specific coin.
If you watch my videos then I’ve failed, cause your comment here is exactly what I teach against in my video. It is extremely disappointing to me.
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Re: Proof sealed 1968s Kennedy Half dollar error
Thank you Daniel.
@Sofiano,
I am not sure what seems to have gotten you so upset.
You said:
You said:
What will happen?
You will pay around 200.00 and all you will receive is a grade coin in a slab.
You will contact them to ask they why they did not label it as an error.
They will never give you any answers.
You will have spent 150.00-200.00 total for a slabbed half dollar worth about 20.00 if you sell it.
Or...
You can go back and read the helpful information I gave you to figure out the reality of using a grading company is not what you (and many other people) think it is.
@Sofiano,
I am not sure what seems to have gotten you so upset.
You said:
I did tell you there is nothing different with this coin. Being a Kennedy half dollar specialist, currently a researcher of the coin, and a collector of this half dollar type since 1968, I recognize the typical proof design of this half dollar for the year 1968.so if you think this is not an error you can write that and I will respect your opinion
You said:
Go ahead and send it in then.but who knows maybe PCGS will have another opinion, I will let you guys know the final results after sending this coin for grading.
What will happen?
You will pay around 200.00 and all you will receive is a grade coin in a slab.
You will contact them to ask they why they did not label it as an error.
They will never give you any answers.
You will have spent 150.00-200.00 total for a slabbed half dollar worth about 20.00 if you sell it.
Or...
You can go back and read the helpful information I gave you to figure out the reality of using a grading company is not what you (and many other people) think it is.
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Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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