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1982 DDO?

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Attached is pictures of what I believe is an actual 1982 DD0. I had a hard time matching to Variety Vista but I could match some. Idk if I just cannot see some stuff yet. IF I am correct and this is a DD0 I think I have found another one. It was the day after I watched the videos Daniel posts. I also hooked up my computer to take pictures so I am not sure if less are needed or closer up... any feedback is appreciated. As always thank you all for your time.
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I do not see any doubling on the obverse, Nice pictures by the way
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The coin must be an EXACT match to one you find on varietyvista.com.

The reason is that all of one type of DDO were struck from the same set of dies. So each DDO will be absolutely identical to all the other DDOs made from those same dies. There is no halfway matching.

So every doubled thing you see in the pics, let's say for DDO-001, will HAVE to match exactly with yours if yours is a DDO-001.

If you do not find an exact match, then you do not have a doubled die. So then it's time to look into non-collectable forms of doubling such as die deterioration doubling and machine doubling (search at error-ref.co for these).
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I see no die doubling in the images you have posted on this thread
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pnwmakes wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:20 am I do not see any doubling on the obverse, Nice pictures by the way
I attached a closer picture. The only thing I do not see is a die scratch on his mouth. I don't know if it is because the coin is not in good shape? Also There is a big die crack on the back that is not mentioned on the Variety Vista website.
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Paul wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:59 am I see no die doubling in the images you have posted on this thread
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Paul wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:24 pm
Paul wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:59 am I see no die doubling in the images you have posted on this thread
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....... creep, squeeze, contact mark,...............?
definitely not doubling
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I agree. Looks like contact marks to me with die deterioration.
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#10 Unread post by Earle42 »

Just a hit from circulation on the B that moved the metal.

To help with the confusion, it would be really helpful for you to look up (use a search engine) what causes a doubled die coin.

I can start you off with a link to how a die is made b/c that knowledge needs comes first:
:arrow: https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06/how ... uce-coins/
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Earle42 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:21 am Just a hit from circulation on the B that moved the metal.

To help with the confusion, it would be really helpful for you to look up (use a search engine) what causes a doubled die coin.

I can start you off with a link to how a die is made b/c that knowledge needs comes first:
:arrow: https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06/how ... uce-coins/
I definitely have studied everything. I am just not a text book learner. I definitely am not going to give up. My brother knows a coin dealer so I am going to see what I can learn from him amd what things look like in real life. Hopefully I can catch on because I actually still love these coins. The old pennies just have a story to tell. 🥰 Thank you all again for your help.
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#12 Unread post by Earle42 »

One of the best ways to learn is to see some of these errors in hand ...wise decision :thumbsup:
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Earle42 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:21 am Just a hit from circulation on the B that moved the metal.

To help with the confusion, it would be really helpful for you to look up (use a search engine) what causes a doubled die coin.

I can start you off with a link to how a die is made b/c that knowledge needs comes first:
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sorry more and more questions. I have attached images of the exact same year and mint mark penny. Can you tell me why the one coin has way thicker lettering yet the lettering on the backs are the same?

As always Thank you :D
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#14 Unread post by Earle42 »

You are comparing a large date and a small date from 1982. Two different sets of dies with two different designs.

Note where Nessie's neck meets the water there is no curve. Where the spine of the large date 2 meets its base, there is no curve.
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Earle42 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:29 am You are comparing a large date and a small date from 1982. Two different sets of dies with two different designs.

Note where Nessie's neck meets the water there is no curve. Where the spine of the large date 2 meets its base, there is no curve.

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Also note the 8s are also different shaped.
Haha 😄 I feel stupid. I even knew there is a large date and a small date coin. Maybe I needed some sleep

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#16 Unread post by Earle42 »

We all do things like this at one time or another! :D
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