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1964 D Quarter Error - Need Help

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I have found an intereresting 1964 D Quarter that is different than all my others. I cannot find this on any pictures at pcgs.com's price guide for this year. Any information on the clearly visible abnormality that runs through the United and ends at the S in States on the reverse would be a very appreciated.

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Is this area raised?
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To the best of my ability to tell, yes. This pic may help a bit. Not as tall as the D and S but you can see the outline and drop off from the D to the line then the line to the blank surface a little better w/ this image where the debris is clearly visable running along edges as well if you zoom in more.
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About the most i can zoom w/ my cam to see raised. The debris along the edge leads me to believe that is a yes. Harder to capture clearly up close as it runs under the T in UNITED.
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Please keep in mind that I'm using an Internet image for diagnosis here
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Paul wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:16 pm :?:
Please keep in mind that I'm using an Internet image for diagnosis here
Completely understand. Just such a uniform line as it travels is why it caught my eye. Your expertise is greatly appreciated with any help that you may be able to provide.

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I understand the photos. Hard to take, not easy. IMHO if it is raise could be previous struck trough debris which left marks on the Anvil and then the followings strike will has those raise marks. Others possibilities could be, but only in hand could be diagnoses. I see it is a old dies and circulate coin which will complicate a little bit but could be analyze. Maybe Paul if has time can analyze on hand this coin. Damage it is not Type C. This coin was strike in the begin of the 1965. The missing of the Die Crack on the border of the left wing show the 1965 strike.

test with a tooth pic if it is raise.

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It appears to be a small die gouge.

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#9 Unread post by Earle42 »

Using just a cell phone to easily take focused coin photos:

:arrow: https://coinauctionshelp.com/forum/view ... hp?t=23514

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Daniel wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:14 pm It appears to be a small die gouge.
Interesting! Thank you. My lack of knowledge of the full process makes it harder for me to understand exactly how that would work and you dont see the damage in the lettering as well but it is running under them. Must be the gouge is not deep and only on the surface leaving the appearance the gouge runs under the letters as you can see it under the T as well but not affecting the T or the D for that matter? It surprised me when I finally got a closer look how it runs all the way back through/under the T as well. Such a uniform / perfect line width and arc wise, I wonder what could have made that so perfectly? Probably no added value other than the silver content I would imagine?

I really appreciate all of your time and opinions on this. I spotted it when I was taking a quick look at a bunch of 64's that I was going to trade in at a LCS.

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It can’t run under the letters it has to gouge through them, but since the letter cavity in the die is in use so not raised, so the gouge is not as apparent in the letters.
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Daniel wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:28 pm It can’t run under the letters it has to gouge through them, but since the letter cavity in the die is in use so not raised, so the gouge is not as apparent in the letters.
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