1918-D Buffalo Nickel possible /7

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1918-D Buffalo Nickel possible /7

#1 Unread post by frankinfish »

I could use a little help verifying that this 1918-D Buffalo is truly an over 7 variety before I send it to PCGS. Attached are photos of my coin on top left, the others are labeled for comparison.
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Please be advised that the RULE for posting coins is ONE coin per-topic. DO NOT post a coin to be compared to, as those who are giving you their opinion know what the coin should or should not look like.

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Sorry for the improper posting. I will delete the photo and add the photos you suggested and give more detail in the post.

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You don't need to delete them just post the other photos
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Can someone please look at the 8 in the date, specifically the flat top and the Holes in both the top and bottom of the 8. I believe the flat top of the 8 is indicative of the overdate 7 and the shape of the bottom hole of the 8 has the shape of the overdate as well. The top hole is questionable to me as it looks too centered, however it may still be correct for the variety. Attached are pictures of the coin;
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#6 Unread post by Earle42 »

I will await Daniel's opinion, but I think in this case it was a good thing to have the comparison photos since the coin being asked about was identified and the question was well defined. It saved us from having to try to compare minute differences by finding a verified example ourselves and then trying to flip back and forth between pictures for a comparison.

Sorry, I wish I could say I think this is an overdate...but...
Wrong shaped hole in 8
Wrong shaped hole in 8
I think the upper hole of the 8 was once hit to make it look smaller like the top hole in the overdate.
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Thanks for the reply Earle42 and the support of my “wrong photo”. What did you think about the flat shape of the top on the 8?

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I don’t believe it is but you would need to send to an expert to examine in hand.

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Daniel wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:16 pm I don’t believe it is but you would need to send to an expert to examine in hand.
Thanks Daniel.

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#10 Unread post by Paul »

Unfortunately your close-up image does not contain enough pixel detail to verify the overdate.

I have personally inspected 2 of these now, both were the true over date.

As Daniel has mentioned, this would need to be seen in hand.
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Paul wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:00 am Unfortunately your close-up image does not contain enough pixel detail to verify the overdate.

I have personally inspected 2 of these now, both were the true over date.

As Daniel has mentioned, this would need to be seen in hand.
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Thanks Paul for offering your inspection/verification service, as I’m considering sending it. Please take a look at another post that I submitted titled “ 1913 5C Type 1 DDR FS-1802 ” in the Coining Around category. I would appreciate your feedback.
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frankinfish wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:03 pm Thanks for the reply Earle42 and the support of my “wrong photo”. What did you think about the flat shape of the top on the 8?
Sorry I was preoccupied with life for awhile and was not on the forum 😂

I saw the flat 8 and thought this is what makes it look like the overdate. My thinking was a flattening can occur from a circulation hit whereas that totally different shaped void in the 8 is less likely, IMO, to be able to have happen from circulation.
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I have the similar, and so far I have found 3 strike designations so far, mine is ag at best, mine is a philly mint though

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Paul wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:00 am Unfortunately your close-up image does not contain enough pixel detail to verify the overdate.

I have personally inspected 2 of these now, both were the true over date.

As Daniel has mentioned, this would need to be seen in hand.
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Closeup with a better camera.
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Earle42 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:00 pm
frankinfish wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:03 pm Thanks for the reply Earle42 and the support of my “wrong photo”. What did you think about the flat shape of the top on the 8?
Sorry I was preoccupied with life for awhile and was not on the forum 😂

I saw the flat 8 and thought this is what makes it look like the overdate. My thinking was a flattening can occur from a circulation hit whereas that totally different shaped void in the 8 is less likely, IMO, to be able to have happen from circulation.
I added a better closeup photo of the date. Let me know your thoughts?

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#16 Unread post by monsterbug1 »

somewhat unrelated, but any tips in general for identifying this variety on acid dated coins? I reguraly enough come across acid dated 1918 D buffalos, but they usually have very weak dates, making them hard to identify

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#17 Unread post by Earle42 »

Sorry I missed this yet again! I come here daily and it the unread posts button. Not sure how I missed this.

As much as I would love to say you have one, I just cannot considering the holes are all wrong. I think someone like Paul should see it in hand.

As to acid dated coins...I am no help there. There used to be a guy who restored the dates through some etching process (Ferric Chloride + something else I think) and sold them on eBay. I do seem to recall he had a buffalo you could tell was an 18/17, but he was not using acid.
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#18 Unread post by monsterbug1 »

Ferric-Chloride is the common chemical in Nic-a-date. Coins that have been exposed to it are called "acid dates" usually, as the coin will be damaged extensively by it

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#19 Unread post by Earle42 »

Ummmm...Nic-A-Date always WAS nitric acid...have they changed that?

This is where the term acid date came from.

Newer techniques have, indeed, started using ferric chloride as you mentioned.
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#20 Unread post by monsterbug1 »

things have seemingly changed- any thoughts on that large cent I posted?

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