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#1 Unread post by stevesherrill »

Let me start by saying this is why I am posting and asking this about this $20.00 bill. Frist off I do know it has a lot of wear and damage to it. I noticed some numbers on it that match the same ink that is used to print it. You will see it in the photos I posted here. Photo 3 you see an R#75 to the right of the Eagle on the shield. It matches the same color as to the Eagle and shield. Photo 4 the ink looks to be two colors in which one color matches the blue Eagle done in lines that it goes across as well as the green ink use to print it. Not sure as to the first one but the second and third appear to be a 6 and 8 and the last three appear to be 3 2 0. Any thoughts on this?
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I'm lost. Are you saying this is an Error? Just probably something extra from the Bank. :shhh: :lol:
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no sal just asking the ink looks to match all the other and it looks to been done when made iv looked at it with loups and a currency lite and all looks way it came even with the lite sows up same colors and all

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Both appear to be from some sort of inked stamp added later. A clue to this is the BPE does not put the "#" symbol on bills. Another clue is the location, there are no letters in this area of the printing plates that make the bills.
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thank you Earle42

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since the ink looks the same as the ink as the rest of this bill is it likely maybe the mint layed something on top of the bundle and stamped something else while laying on top of it? Not sure if you can tell by the photos but the ink matches to a T.

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Members: We appreciate everyone trying to help, but please make sure when posting answers to the forum that you are not guessing. People come here for advice. When someone takes a wrong answer somewhere else and says they got it from Daniel's forum, then Daniel's reputation can be hurt by others saying Daniel's forum gives out wrong information.
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stevesherrill wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:09 pm since the ink looks the same as the ink as the rest of this bill is it likely maybe the mint layed something on top of the bundle and stamped something else while laying on top of it? Not sure if you can tell by the photos but the ink matches to a T.
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i never said nothing like that earle42 iv have always took your and dans advice

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earle42 you dan and a few others have given me good advice things to read and study and i have but never once have i said anything to the affect that dan gives bad advice on his form nore will i ever i learnd alot from yall now fill like words are being put in my mouth as well as being accused of something i have not done

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How about the ink from a strap?
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where is the # mark on a strap? I dont see or think there is a # on a strap

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stevesherrill wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:50 pm earle42 you dan and a few others have given me good advice things to read and study and i have but never once have i said anything to the affect that dan gives bad advice on his form nore will i ever i learnd alot from yall now fill like words are being put in my mouth as well as being accused of something i have not done
Here is the post I was referring to:
stevesherrill wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:09 pm since the ink looks the same as the ink as the rest of this bill is it likely maybe the mint layed something on top of the bundle and stamped something else while laying on top of it? Not sure if you can tell by the photos but the ink matches to a T.
I know you would never deliberately do ANYTHING here to make Daniel look bad. :romance-grouphug:

The problem I saw was that were suggesting something that would be impossible to happen at the BPE (well...you said the mint - but an honest mistake - they don't make bills at any of the 4 mints).

A newbie seeing you post very well could take that suggestion as a good idea of what happened despite it actually being impossible. So without meaning to, your friendly guess could easily be mentioned by the OP on another forum, or a coins shop such as , "On Daniel's forum I learned that the bills can get stamped with extra letters when they are made."

So if guessing, just please make sure that you make it very clear you are offering a guess but really don't know. :)

BTW - bank tellers do sometimes use stamps on the paper bands they apply and this can make ink marks such as these. I do not know if that was the case here, but this is something that can happen.
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sorry thats a new part i didnt know that the mint didnt do paper money what is BPE

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Earle42 can you show me the post you are talking about? i have never said no one has said this or that about this or that. NEVER!!!!!!! some me this post your talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!

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stevesherrill wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:10 pm where is the # mark on a strap? I dont see or think there is a # on a strap
Yes the # symbol does not appear on a Federal Reserve currency strap. But when banks send money back to the Feds there are requirements that must appear on each bundle.
Band Stamps What to do:
Each band must be stamped with the following information:
Institution's name;
ABA routing number; and
Four-digit endpoint number (branch number) of the depositing office (a band without an office identification number is deemed to be from the institution’s head office).
Use black or dark ink (not red) on the stamp to help ensure good quality images.
Use large and easy-to-read font on your stamp.
Refresh ink pads frequently.

So Branch number is shown using the # symbol and they use a lot of ink. So it might have been a ink transfer or over inking just a thought. the picture is a example from the Deposit Visual Reference Guide of the Federal Reserve. Most large banks use automated printing for there straps and unlike this referance picture the information runs horizontally on the strap and looks kinda like the printing on your bill. Just a thought.

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#17 Unread post by stevesherrill »

thank you pnwmakes now that makes science thank you very much

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stevesherrill wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:26 pm thank you pnwmakes now that makes science thank you very much

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stevesherrill wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:14 pm Earle42 can you show me the post you are talking about? i have never said no one has said this or that about this or that. NEVER!!!!!!! some me this post your talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!
stevershill - I owe you an apology. I am sorry! Here is your exact quote:
stevesherrill wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:09 pm since the ink looks the same as the ink as the rest of this bill is it likely maybe the mint layed something on top of the bundle and stamped something else while laying on top of it? Not sure if you can tell by the photos but the ink matches to a T.
I totally misread the words "... is it likely maybe the mint layed..." as saying, "...it is likely... ."

Not only that, but I also missed you were asking a question!

I am not sure where my mind was b/c I even re-read it incorrectly several times! :angry-banghead:

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#20 Unread post by stevesherrill »

its all good Earle42 accepted

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