1964 Transitional Variety

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Re: 1964 Transitional Variety

#31 Unread post by Mary.Mattey »

Earle42 - I am beyond impressed! I hope to someday have enough expertise to recognize a DDO. :) I am working very hard to increase my knowledge base. Can you please answer a few beginner questions for me?

1. Are rotated die coins the coins you flip over, and the front and back are not straight?
2. I am considering getting my coin slabbed but was told that I need a letter from Mr. Wexler to send to the grading companies. If I don't have a letter the grading companies will not recognize the variety. Is this true?

Thanks again for your help!
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#32 Unread post by Earle42 »

Mary.Mattey wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 11:41 am Earle42 - I am beyond impressed! I hope to someday have enough expertise to recognize a DDO. :) I am working very hard to increase my knowledge base. Can you please answer a few beginner questions for me?
1. Are rotated die coins the coins you flip over, and the front and back are not straight?
2. I am considering getting my coin slabbed but was told that I need a letter from Mr. Wexler to send to the grading companies. If I don't have a letter the grading companies will not recognize the variety. Is this true?

Thanks again for your help!
While I am a Kennedy specialist (and some other series as well), there is a LOT I do not know about many other series. For example, Daniel may shudder at the following fact, but I have to look up which Morgans are the key dates/MMs when I want to reference this :lol:

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1. Rotated die coins:
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2. I posted further above concerning the reality of what grading companies do. One of the points mentions how they handle varities and slabbing them. Make sure to read the point labeled as "Error on Errors" to understand how the companies handle labeling varieties.
I personally do not know if PCGS, NGA, or ANACS even will recognize this Transitional variety or not. I also admit I do not know how to find out if they recognize this variety, but that info likely would be someplace on their website(?). I do not know of anyplace where this variety has an officially assigned "number," but have never looked for it either b.c I have had no reason to.

Since I posted the long essay about the reality of grading companies, I think you likely have considered the costs to get this slabbed will likely be a lot more than the coin's value if using PCGS or NGC. But I also understand someone just liking slabbed coins to collect.

Maybe Daniel will know if there is a way to have a company label a slab with a variety they do not know of/recognize??



BTW - if you read the essay in my signature, you will find one reason why I personally don't find grading companies reputable compared to what the masses have just assumed them to be. However, if I was buying and selling coins like Daniel and other dealers, then obviously I would use slabbing companies b/c a lot of buyers "feel better" when buying slabbed coins, and so slabs bring a higher selling price than a raw coin.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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#33 Unread post by Mary.Mattey »

This is very helpful. Thank you!
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#34 Unread post by gsp193 »

Also the rays will be broken above the Eagles right shoulder at the stars ...Looking at what I can see on your's the ray looks to be broken as well. The G will be a straight G resembling more of a U shape instead of the bottom being flared out to the right just a bit. I have three of the transitional non-accented hair varieties along with an accented hair variety and thats what I see between them. Hope that helps a little
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#35 Unread post by gsp193 »

I just found where there 3 more pages to this thread so I probably just added something that was already posted previously! My apology if so, learning to navigate here!
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#36 Unread post by Earle42 »

Yes, that info was in the graphic on the second page. But that's OK...if someone missed it on the graphic, your post made a way to have them double check it :D
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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#37 Unread post by gsp193 »

Thanks Earle42!
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